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Julia Marie (00:00):
Raymond Posh is my guest today, and we're talking awakening and the evolution of human consciousness. If you'd like to learn more about my awakening story and how following the signals from my soul became my new way of life, please pick up a copy of my new book available now on Amazon.
I'll drop the link in the show notes. Welcome to Evolving Humans, the podcast for Awakening Souls. I'm your host, Julia Marie. Settle in and get ready for another spirited conversation. Raymond Posh is a spiritual explorer way, sho folk, singer, podcaster, and so much more greater of two podcasts, his newest show, his New Ways of Being. Raymond loves exploring spiritual awakening and the evolution of human
consciousness. He's author of the book, awakening to Wholeness and is a voice for love, oneness and wholeness. Raymond is committed to sharing the message that we can awaken and make a difference in the world. Welcome to Evolving Humans. Raymond, I am so looking forward to hearing your story.
Raymond Posch (01:36):
Well, thank you, Julia. Thanks for inviting me to be here and I look forward to this conversation.
Julia Marie (01:45):
I like to start at the beginning and the first question I always ask is, what was it like growing up in Raymond's house?
Raymond Posch (01:55):
Okay, well, I think I was raised as a Catholic, but I grew up on a farm in Missouri and was the oldest of five kids, and growing up on a farm has a lot of interesting opportunities to it, very hard work. But when I was very young, like four and five years old, what I loved to do is go out in the woods and explore, really get close to nature, and I've stayed very in tune with nature over the years. I love animals, et cetera. But yeah, growing up was a lot of hard work. My family was very religious, and so I was raised with that. It's
interesting because when I went off to college, what happened in a matter of months is I dropped out of being a Catholic and I became an atheist, which I was for quite a number of years, and then I had a spiritual experience that led me in a new direction. But in the growing up part, yes, I was very much involved in the world of working on the farm. I loved learning and that was probably the biggest thing for me is the love of learning.
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And that's still with me.
Julia Marie (03:40):
My grandparents had a dairy farm, and so I'm kind of familiar with that kind of life. We used to go visit there often. And then one of my earliest jobs when I was out on my own was working in the fields of California.
Raymond Posch (03:57):
Yes,
Julia Marie (03:58):
This audience knows how much I love a great awakening story. You talked about an unusual spiritual event, is what you said that triggered years of spiritual exploration. So I'm assuming that's your awakening experience.
Raymond Posch (04:16):
Okay. And I'll have to say I don't have some of the kinds of awakening experiences that some people do that I've run into. Mine was not a total like a one-time awakening by any means. And I have to say I'm still in the process of awakening. And what I've really learned is that awakening is truly a process. So I mentioned that I was an atheist for many years and very content as an atheist. One day at work, it was at
lunchtime, I was a software engineer, and I had this thought that, oh, I should go to the computer bookstore not too far away from where I worked and see what they had. I'm always interested in learning more. So I went there and I was wandering around and I picked up this book that I thought looked interesting. It was on a subject that I was interested in, and I opened the book to a random page and there was my name and I was blown away. It's a shock when you suddenly see your name and you're not
expecting it,
Julia Marie (05:41):
And your name isn't Joe Smith.
Raymond Posch (05:43):
That's right. And I had no idea. I was mentioned in this book basically I had written an article that got published in Software Magazine and it was about enterprise systems, but I had no idea what was mentioned in this book. The book quoted my article pretty extensively. I don't know that it was totaled, but I don't know. There was something about that experience that I immediately knew it was not a coincidence, and that was reinforced the following day. Can
Julia Marie (06:28):
I ask you, before you go on, can I ask you what the book, what was the book?
Raymond Posch (06:33):
It was called Enterprise Computing, and it was about, so this was back in the early nineties, and it was about computers and networks getting to the stage of development and computer applications programming.
Julia Marie (06:53):
So it was a computer book. It didn't have anything to do with spirituality. That was what I was trying to point out,
Raymond Posch (06:58):
Right? Yes. Nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever. So yes, it was totally about technology and the book was expensive. I thought for a little bit about buying it, and I thought, well, no, I'm not going to do that just to have my name in the book. So I went back to work, and the next day though, I changed my mind. I went back to the bookstore to buy the book, and it was gone. So I asked the clerk where to go, and
he had packed it back in the back was in the process of getting it ready to go back to the publisher because no one had bought it. And I said, okay, I'll buy it. But what I realized at that point was that this definitely was not a coincidence to me. It was the universe reaching out to me, getting my attention, and it happened on the last day that it could have happened.
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If I hadn't gone that day, I wouldn't have known about it, but it got my attention. And the more I thought about it, the more I realized I believe that this is the universe reaching out to me, and this is personal, it's me, it's not. And what happened at that point was that I decided that, okay, if the universe is getting my attention, then there's a lot about the universe that I don't understand. That means it's intelligent, it knows me personally, and what am I going to do about that? And I started going into extensive spiritual
exploration, and I've called myself a spiritual explorer for quite a long time.
Julia Marie (09:05):
Well, before you move on, I want to point out a couple of things. One, you said you're, you had this awakening experience and then you continue to awaken. And I'll just say I have a slightly different viewpoint on that. I believe we get that initial awakening. You got the call, you responded to that, and then so now you're not asleep anymore. You're awake. And now sometimes we do have layers of awakening, but for the most part it feels to me as I'm going through it that it's my awareness expanding
now until I leave this body. I am in the process of expanding my awareness, so I'm awake. So we're kind of saying the same thing. And the other thing is you did say it's a coincidence, but you walking into the store on that day, in my opinion, was actually a synchronicity. It had a timing element to it exactly. Like you said, if you'd had not been there that day, you wouldn't have even gotten that message,
Raymond Posch (10:19):
Right. Yeah, exactly. I would agree with what you said. And at one point, I believe that awakening was a singular big event, and it may be for some people, but Eckhart Tolle described a very profound major event. But for me, that was not the case. I have had a continuous expansion of awareness since then, and I think that's more the way I define awakening now as well. But
Julia Marie (10:56):
Well, that's one of the reasons I wanted to have you on the program because the awakening was so quiet.
Raymond Posch (11:07):
Yes.
Julia Marie (11:08):
It was more like the dawning of the light over the horizon as opposed to a lightning bolt. And the point here is to illustrate to people that awakening takes many forms, and it depends upon the person, the universe is going to knock on our door in a way that's going to get our attention. So putting a computer book in front of a computer guy that has his name in it seems to me like a pretty good way to get his attention.
Raymond Posch (11:36):
Yes. And it did
Julia Marie (11:38):
See, so there you go.
Raymond Posch (11:40):
Well, and I went on from that, I would say over a period of about 10 years continued. I read book after book and listened to audio and probably attended some courses. And so I really got into the learning and I was looking for some answers. How does the universe work? Why was the universe wanting to get my attention? Since I came from a point of not believing in God, I knew at that point that I didn't want to go down a singular path. I didn't think that there was any single person who had all the answers. I wanted to
explore and see what people thought and learn from other teachers. And I did that. And after about 10 years, I came to a pretty strong set of opinions about how the universe works, although I would say I'm still learning, but one of the key things I believed at that point was that there is one consciousness in the universe, a universal consciousness that is the source of everything.
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And in addition to that, I had learned that, and I had come to the conclusion that one consciousness is primary and it created the physical universe within it. And so I came away with a very holistic view ofhow the universe works. And that was a key for me growing up as a Catholic, in my opinion. I know there are esoteric branches, branches that really understand the similar concepts, but they did not teach that we
were a part of God, that we were even connected with God. It was more a case of God created you, here are the 10 Commandments, follow these rules, figure it out. Don't go bad. Don't go wrong.
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And so I did not have a very good opinion about God previously, but as I went on, and in fact, I didn't like the word God, but as I went on, I learned that no, the universe as being a whole that makes it good, God is good. It wants to hold itself together. It wants all parts of itself to be happy to be growing in the expansion of the universe. And so yeah, I ended up with some beliefs that I still really firmly hold that have greatly
influenced me, but I've still been exploring, okay, the details of my working relationship day to day with that universe.
Julia Marie (15:10):
Well, and that's what I believe fundamentally after we wake up, that is the rest of our journey, figuring out what is my unique way in which I interact or engage with this field of intelligence, of which I am also a part because it's going to be different for everybody.
Raymond Posch (15:36):
And I've arrived also in a belief that, well, actually, this comes more from a particular book that God said he created individuated beings within itself to experience life and to experience creation itself.
Julia Marie (16:03):
That's exactly correct.
Raymond Posch (16:04):
And that is so powerful. It says so much about how we should be viewing life, because if we're creating our experience of life, then if we want that to be a good experience, we need to learn how to create it as a good experience. So I love the learning process and the awakening process and the creating process in life.
Julia Marie (16:38):
Well, okay, you took the route of reading a whole bunch of books. For me, when my awakening process happened, I was discouraged to read other people's books. I learned most everything I learned through direct
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Through Gnosis, it came. So it was more like an insight process for me than it was anything else. So we're different in that regard. But I also have a strong left brain, and I can tell you do too. But I like that you've added in the right brain there to balance things out. Because I believe the goal is that we need to function with whole brains. So we don't necessarily throw out the logical mind just because we're starting to have
spiritual experiences. We need to have discernment, and we need to be assessing things as we go along. And asking for validation too, that's not a bad thing to do.
Raymond Posch (17:40):
Right. Yeah, very good perception there.
Julia Marie (17:46):
We've kind of been around the fringes of it, but So what would be your perspective on spirituality? What is spirituality?
Raymond Posch (18:02):
When I started my first podcast, it was at one point I called it Spirituality and Consciousness. And so I talked a lot about spirituality in very broad terms. And I think in my very first episode, that was four years ago, I talked about spirituality is really to me, people reaching out, searching for answers about me, how the universe works, or what is my relationship to that? Is there a higher power? And if so, how do I relate
to that and what does that mean for my life? So I had a very broad general view of spirituality, and I still do, but I think in a way now the time for all of that seeking and exploration, at least for people who have been on the path for some time, we need to be participating fully in the awakening and the evolution of
consciousness, which is where I believe spirituality or the divine has been going all along, is that process of growth and awakening.
Julia Marie (19:41):
So you intimated about the evolution of consciousness. I have a sense that you feel like that's important.
So why do you believe the evolution of consciousness is so important right now?
Raymond Posch (19:58):
Well, that's a loaded question. Yeah. Because I have observed that there have been many different views on that question from different spiritual teachers or people active in spirituality, and some Barbara Marks Hubbard, for example, when she was still here, she said that we are, humanity is on this cusp right now, that in our evolutionary process, we need to reach a higher level of consciousness or an awakening and
move fully in that upward path. Or we can see all around us with what's still going on in the world with all the war and violence and divisiveness, et cetera, that if we don't step into this upward path, then we will run the risk of devolution, of moving downward. And so I think that certainly that tipping point is potentially there. Now, I have some spiritual teachers and some channelers who channel ascended masters and the ascended masters, some ascended masters say that the awakening of mankind is assured. And so
I'm not sure which is correct. I read something in your book that about what you think about that and what you've heard. But I think for our own personal benefit, we need to step into the path that elevates us, that helps us live happy, full fulfilled life, and not stay in this world of struggle and divisiveness. So I would say I want to be on the side of, and I would encourage all others to make that choice as well.
Julia Marie (22:41):
Totally agree. I mean, when Spirit encouraged me to start a podcast four years ago, I didn't do it. I've only been broadcasting for two years because I knew it was going to be a huge additional workload that frankly, I didn't know anything about producing my own episodes. And did I really want to take that on?
But it just wouldn't leave me alone. And I thought, I want to be on the side of planting seeds out there in the hopes that we do achieve. We do make a collective choice that leads us towards the expansion as opposed to contraction, because that's really what we're looking at. And I agree, I don't believe it's a done deal. There is too much choice still out there, too many choices to be made, I feel like on the track for something probable. But to
Raymond Posch (23:48):
Yes, and
Julia Marie (23:51):
To say that it's, oh, just relax. We're on our way. We're already through the hard part. I'm sorry, but that's not my perspective.
Raymond Posch (24:00):
Well, and in agreement with that point, one of the big influences for me has been conversations with God from Neil Donald Walsh. He had a conversation with God about this, and God said that God was making the invitation to mankind to awaken as a species, and that it was a choice. We have that choice. And he
said that now is the time to make that choice and to step into it. And so that has to carry a lot of weight. And so, yeah, that's very powerful. And I say, boy, we have to pay attention.
Julia Marie (24:51):
Well, that's our time for today. Thank you for listening. And if you enjoyed this episode, please share it with two other people so we can bring more light to this world. Stay tuned tomorrow for part two of my conversation with Raymond. We'll talk humanity's awakening, how a simple technique can help you develop. And we'll discuss how each person, by expanding their awareness is a critical part of the global
awakening. And now here's a quote for you to ponder as you go about your day. It is time to center yourself, pull your focus inward, because when you reside in your center, all there is left to do is expand. Jeannette LeBlanc